26: Why Following Your Intuition & Inner Guidance is the Key to Getting Everything You Want with Erica Wernick (Part 1)
Whether you consider yourself intuitive or not, this episode is for you. In part 1 of 2, I talk with Hollywood Success Coach, Erica Wernick, about what it really means to follow your intuition and inner guidance, and how it may not be easy, but it’s how we’re able to reach our most impossible goals while living our best lives.
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Episode References:
You Are the Magic by Erica Wernick - Click here for a limited edition hardcover copy!
Also by Erica Wernick:
The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks
Learn More About Erica Wernick:
Hollywood’s Success Coach, Erica Wernick helps artists create success in one of the most “impossible” industries so they can live the life they’ve always dreamed of.
After breaking into Hollywood with no connections, and booking her first TV show just two weeks after moving to LA, Erica has spent over a decade living her dream designing graphics for television. You can see her work on hit shows like Glee, Superstore, and most recently, Top Chef.
Author of Meant For This: The Mindset And Strategy To Achieve Your Most “Impossible” Dreams, Erica now helps Hollywood artists get to the next level of their career, no matter how “unrealistic” it seems. From actors to writers to directors and every craft in between, Erica has developed a reputation for helping artists access their inner greatness and achieve the goals that used to feel out of reach.
Erica is a member of the Television Academy, and between herself and her clients, they’ve booked work on over 60 television shows and films on Netflix, Hulu, HBO, FOX, ABC, and CBS just to name a few.
Connect with Erica on Instagram: @hollywoodsuccesscoach
Or check out her website: https://www.hollywoodsuccesscoach.com/
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Amanda Durocher 0:01
Welcome to New View Advice, a safe place for you to ask your most vulnerable questions about life, relationships, healing, and so much more. I'm your host, Amanda Durocher, and I believe our fears and traumas are often what holds us back from living life to the fullest. Join me here each week as I offer advice on how to move through whatever is holding you back from being your best self. Let's get started. Hello, and welcome to new view advice. I am Amanda Durocher. And I'm your host, and I am so excited to be back here with you with Season Two. If you're new here, this is a healing centered advice podcast. My goal is to offer you guidance along the healing journey. And it is my intention to help guide you back to your own heart guide you back to your own wisdom within you. Which is why I am so excited for today's episode. So today we will be talking about intuition. And specifically how to connect to your intuition. Is it easy to follow your intuition? What is intuition? I think that your intuition is the same as your soul, or your inner guidance or your inner being or that nice voice in your head or your higher self. There are so many different words we can use to describe intuition. But it's all the same thing. It's the voice inside of you that's guiding you and instructing you on how to be your best self. So today we go deep into talking about intuition. I didn't always have a connection with my intuition I for a very long time would have never talked about intuition. And now I consider myself a very intuitive person. So this was a built practice. For me it was following those intuitive steps that intuitive guidance, one step at a time, and learning to trust it. And learning that it's not always leading me where my ego mind wants to go. It's leading me to my greatest potential to my best life to the healed version of myself to the happiest version of myself, really, it's leading me to where my heart desires not where society tells me to go not where my family tells me to go. Not where my partner wants me to go. It's leading me where my heart wants to go. So I think developing an intuitive practice is so important. The intuitive process is really individual. So we all hear see smell, however you get your guidance, it's different for everybody. And so because of that, I thought it'd be really great to bring a guest on the podcast today. So I am so excited that today's episode features Erica Warneke Erica Warneke is Hollywood's success coach but more importantly, she's one of my close close friends and I am so grateful to have her in my life. And I am so grateful that she came on the podcast and shared her wisdom with me and with everyone who listens. Erica recently wrote a book you are the magic which is about this which is about connecting to your inner guidance, your inner compass, your inner voice, and you are the magic is such a magical book. I'm very lucky to have already read it. And I highly recommend if you enjoy this episode to check it out yourself. It is such a guide for anyone looking to follow a big dream, follow their intuition and who has doubts along the way. It's like a roadmap for how the intuitive process works so I highly recommend it. And before we jump on in I just wanted to redo Erica warnings BIOS so you knew a little bit about Erica as well. So Hollywood Success Coach Erica Warneke helps artists create success and one of the most impossible industries so they can live the life they've always dreamed of. After breaking into Hollywood with no connections and booking her first TV show. Just two weeks after moving to LA Erica has spent over a decade living her dream designing graphics for television. You can see her work on hit shows like Glee superstore and most recently Top Chef, author of meant for this the mindset and strategy to achieve your most impossible dreams. Erica now helps Hollywood artists get to the next level of their career, no matter how unrealistic it seems, from actors to writers to directors and every craft in between. Erica has developed a reputation for helping artists access their inner greatness and achieve the goals that used to feel out of reach. Erica is a member of the Television Academy and between herself and her clients. They've booked work on over 60 television shows and films on Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Fox, ABC and CBS just to name a few. And I can attest to this. I actually was one of Erica's clients back in the day when I lived in Los Angeles and I wanted to be an actress so it feels like another life from now because it was actually through working with Erica and through connecting with my inner guidance and through connecting with what I really wanted and not what my ego wanted. I actually discovered I wanted to be a writer and not an actor. So I love Erica and I'm so excited for you to listen to this episode and I hope you enjoy
Amanda Durocher 4:57
welcome to the podcast I currently have Erricka Warnecke here with me. And I am so excited for you to be joining me today.
Erica Wernick 5:04
It's crazy to be here because I listened to your podcast. So now to be on it. It's it's fun. It's, it's freaky. It's cool.
Amanda Durocher 5:14
I'm so excited to have you here. You're my first guest. All my other episodes so far have been solo episodes. So I'm excited to see how this goes with having a guest. I think my personality may come out more, because a lot of people comment how calm I sound. And I'm like, I'm not a calm person. So season two, like real Amanda's coming out. Because like, what,
Erica Wernick 5:37
Larry, hilarious, well, hopefully this goes well. And you're not like, that was terrible. I'm never doing that again.
Amanda Durocher 5:44
Yeah, this will be the deciding factor. If there are more guests, lots of pressure is going to be amazing. So today, Erica and I are going to be talking about intuition. And following your inner guidance. This is a topic that I've received multiple questions on. And I think so many people are interested in how to connect back with themselves I've found connecting to my intuition. And inner guidance I consider those interchangeable are the voice of my heart, following my higher self following God following the universe, so many different ways to talk about the same thing, which is inner guidance. But that's been such a an important part of my healing journey, was connecting back to that inner guidance. So Erica has actually a new book coming out about inner guidance and following your treasure. So I thought Eric would be a great guest for this topic. And I was wondering if you could tell everybody a bit about your book that's coming out soon?
Erica Wernick 6:40
Yes. First, I have to say, it is so weird for me to be talking about this topic. For me to even write a book about this, like I joke with my coach mag, who I dedicated this book to I like 10 years ago, even five, six years ago, I was not the intuition, girl. I mean, I was so hardcore strategy, set goals give deadlines, I was really into tangible. So it feels like almost wrong for me to do doing this. But the reason why I wrote this book is because I have worked in Hollywood as a graphic designer for like, 14 years now. And that was my big dream. I moved to Hollywood, and it was scary. And I did my big dream. I didn't know anybody. And I broke in and I did it. And then I started coaching because I wanted to help other people make their dreams come true. So, you know, I I've done some cool things in my life. You know, 30 plus television shows just really cool jobs, helping so many amazing people. And I was starting to feel like, what's next, like I has, you know, I'm a manifesting generator. And I was like, What's my next career slash moment of a job. I just felt I was ready for something different. And I had no idea what that was. And it was the first time in my life, I had no idea what I was working towards. And it was so scary, because that was like my identity, you know, setting goals and being the strategy person and like, it was who I was, you know, for all these years, I knew exactly what I wanted, always. And I went for it. And I set these goals and I you know, I did these tangible actions. And here I was having no idea what the fuck oh, can I sit up for it?
Unknown Speaker 8:38
Oh my god, I swear all the time here. Yes. Okay.
Erica Wernick 8:41
I had no idea what the fuck I want to do. It's like I have this, this nudge to do something different. I just didn't really know what that was. So what do you do when you don't have like a tangible thing to follow? Well, the only thing you got left to do is to follow your inner voice. Because it's not even like I could, you know, get advice from somebody else. I can't have someone else tell me what my heart wants to do next in life, you know? So, this book, this book was so hard, so challenging, because I'm writing about this process as I'm living it and living it is so uncomfortable. Like, yeah, I gotta be honest, even now, it is so uncomfortable to just fall away into. Like, it's, you know, I write in the book, like, we are so trained to follow logic, right? Like, it's got to logically make sense. Whatever next move, you're going to make whatever action you're going to take, you know, who who you have relationships with, like, literally everything you do in your life should be logical. You know, that's what we're taught and it should have like a, you know, a realistic ness to it and logical reasons behind it and your inner guidance. First of all, It doesn't tell you all the answers at once, it only tells you step by step, at least that's been my, my sort of really love what my book is about, you know. So it's not, it's not showing you like the entire journey, it's showing you like, go take this one next step. And so when you're following your intuition to just like this one next step, there's not really a lot of logic behind it. You know, like, I explained it, like, when I decided I wanted to work in Hollywood, I'm from Philadelphia, moving to Los Angeles to be a graphic designer. That was not a logical dream. You know, like, I feel like one of the differences between a dream and a quote unquote, goal is that goals are logical. You know, goals are sometimes like realistic. I mean, they might be stretch goals, but there's, there's still some reality in them. And I feel like a dream, like when I decided, I want to move to Hollywood to pursue this dream. No, my logical brain did not make that decision. Was my you know, my heart was like, Hey, this is why because it's scary. It's like, there's so many chances of it not working out. Like, logically you have, you know, I didn't know a single person. And this industry is all about who, you know, like, there were so many, you know, roadblocks in my way that if I were approaching this from a logical standpoint of like, this should be my goal, and this is what I will do, I would have done it, I wouldn't have done it.
Amanda Durocher 11:31
Do you consider moving to Hollywood, your first like your first you followed your inner guidance like that you consciously remember following your inner guidance? I'm just curious, because that's my first
Erica Wernick 11:41
No, I think that it's the the most defined, you know, because it's, you know, that was a big quote, unquote, dream. And I think that with dream, like, I think dreams are a really easy way to connect to your inner being, because I think they're created by your inner being. Yeah, but I do know, like, I can't remember if I tell the story in the book, but I transferred colleges. And it was because I went to a university, and I got into their design program, and I hated it. And the teacher was really mean, and it was just not productive, you know. And she said, things to me to make me feel like I wasn't good. And so choosing to transfer to another school, I feel like that was, you know, my inner being telling me to do that, because logically, you could be like, well, she says, You're not the best, maybe she can pursue graphic design, you know, just stick this out, see what kind of job you can get. Maybe you can design something for a pharmaceutical company, you know, yeah. But my intuition was like, Erica, there's something else out there. And I felt so strongly that graphic design was my dream. And again, graphic design, even even though graphic design is not as I don't know, I guess there's more reality in it in our society compared to like being a painter or something. But it still felt like a dream to me. Like I was just felt called to it. And I was like, this experience doesn't feel good. I want to transfer school. So I really feel like that was one of the first I'm sure there were more I just, they just don't stick out as much. But I think that was one of the first where I, I followed my intuition, and I transferred schools and it worked out really great.
Amanda Durocher 13:19
Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Cuz I think when we first start doing it, because I agree, I think that we're always following our intuition throughout our lives. But it's like, when does that conscious light bulb go on? And for me, it was moving to Los Angeles, it was like, the first time I feel like I was on autopilot, up until like, 24. And then it was like, That heart calling, like, moved to LA moved to LA, like, and it's just like, there was no explanation. You know, like my partner who moved with me that God because we're still together was like, Why do you want to move to LA and I was like, I want to be an actress. And everybody in my life is like, you've never taken an acting class. Like, what do you think you are? And I'm like, I don't know. I guess I think I'm gonna manage Russia, and I'm gonna move to LA and be a famous actress. Like, I just also got this like, kind of false confidence. But it was like that, fake it till you make it. Because when I moved to LA, it was like a reality check. Like, what did I sign up for? But when I was in Boston, I was like, I'm moving to LA to be an actress. And it just, I want to see it happen overnight. But I thought about it last night before this. And what really happened for me was, I had those Inklings like the little calls and then I actually went to the Super Bowl. I know we probably don't have a lot of sports fans who listen to this podcast, but I went to the Super Bowl, I forget the year, but it was the year the Patriots beat the Falcons and they were down 28 to three, and it was like through the third. So basically, it was the most epic comeback of all time. And I witnessed it. And in that moment, everybody's celebrating the whim of the game, and I'm standing there like, oh my god, I just witnessed that anything is possible. I bear witness yes to a miracle. And people might be like, it's a sports game. But in my body it like vibrated as a miracle. Because it was like, I was led here. It's like, by God's grace, I'm at this game is how it felt. And it was just like, I'm not here for the game. I'm here to witness what can happen when you believe in yourself. And then when you listen to interviews from the team afterwards, it's like hearing the mindset of the Patriots in the locker room of like, it's gonna be a hell of a story, guys. And like the fact that they just didn't care. When they were down at the half. It just instilled in me this like, Okay, let's listen to this voice. What if I finally was able to see the what if, right? What if it did work out? Rather than when, like the what if it doesn't?
Erica Wernick 15:47
Yeah, absolutely. I think that's such a good story. And it made me think, our inner, this is why there's no logic, right? Like, I think that our inner being or our intuition, whatever you want to call it, it leads us to what we need to see or what we need to do, or who we need to connect with, even if it's like, in a way at the Superbowl, you know, like, like, with my TV show, I mean, the way we got connected to this production company is through something crazy. something I saw on Facebook, and and to me, that's a miracle, but, but you know, my intuition, whatever led me to connect to some person, and like two years later, it turned into this. So I think, you know, following your inner being following your intuition, it's exciting. It's fun. It's like these surprises in these miracles. And it's also terrifying.
Amanda Durocher 16:35
Yes, definitely. Yeah. And that's why I love within your book, because I was lucky enough to read a sneak peek, that you talk about it like it's a scavenger hunt. Right? It's a treasure hunt. And I don't know if you want to talk a little bit more about that. But I love that because I think it it's like that surprise part, right? Like it brings in the fun of following your intuition.
Erica Wernick 16:55
Yes. And by the way, my book is better because of you. You didn't just read it, you gave me notes that made it better. And I literally implemented every single one of your notes. I'm excited for you to read the full version now. I'm so grateful for those notes. That's just how I view it. And I And again, it's this, I feel like I didn't see it this way as clearly back then when I had a specific direction. You know, now that I have, you know, not I feel like I don't have a super clear direction. I'm just sort of following like, how I want to feel. Yeah, and so it does, it feels like a scavenger hunt. Like I really, truly, like I said before, you don't get all of your clues on the first day, you know, you don't get all of it at once you don't get to see you don't get to read the end of the book, when you get the first page, I really think it's you receive a clue of an action to take, or a person to talk to or any sort of step at all. And then when you get there and do that you receive your next clue. And so it builds on each other, and you don't receive the next clue until you've implemented the first clue. And I also, you know, I believe in free will you don't have to implement these clues, you know, you don't have to follow them at all. If you don't want to, from my experience. When you don't, it's incredibly unfulfilling.
Amanda Durocher 18:14
Yes. And I also want to talk about that, because I think it's such a great point that you don't have to follow it. And it does come step by step. And in my experience, when you don't follow it, the whispers stop. That's what happens. For me, I have a very, I'm very intuitive at this point. It's a built practice. I think anybody can really hone their intuition minds very, when from no intuition to feeling very intuitive or feeling like I had no intuition. But when you ignore the whispers, it stops. And it's not because your inner voice went away. It's like when you start asking again, it's just going to tell you to do the same thing. So that's why it stops. It's like, it's like, oh, you're you don't wanna listen, okay, go do what you want. And then you're like, why is my inner inner voice not there? And it's like, if you really sit with again, it's probably just gonna ask you to do the exact same thing you were ignoring. Because that's how your intuition works. Because the world of the soul or your inner voice isn't linear. So we think everything has to be like XYZ. And your intuition is like nuts, a ZXTW. Like, so it's like, I'm giving you your actual next step. Are you listening? is how I feel?
Erica Wernick 19:25
Yes, I totally, it's actually really interesting. I believe everything you just said, I've just never heard it explained that way. That the Whisper stops, because I feel like it never dies down. And I talk about how the ego just gets louder. And then it's like, you can just hear the ego more, but it's it's interesting, you know, I talk about in the book, I'm gonna just share everything and you're gonna read it and be like, already heard all this, but I went to this I have my tarot cards read and I was, you know, struggling with like, I I think I know the new direction I want to go in, it's still kind of vague. It's just like a, you know, have this vague, cloudy idea. But it's totally different than what I'm doing now. And I felt stuck between those two worlds. And this tarot reader who I'd never met before, didn't tell her anything going into it. Like, told that back to me. And I was so blown away. And she was like, it's okay to let go of the old world and to move into the new one. And I was like, Whoa, like, I was so inspired, holy crap, how does she know this? And so I went home. And I did nothing for two years. I did not follow it for two years, I was so inspired that I did nothing. Because it was so scary. One of the things that I've struggled with, when following this voice that's telling me to take certain steps is that it's hard for my ego, or my logical mind, to believe that we're ever on being led, is going to be better or more fruitful than what my logical mind can think of. Yes, yes. Right. So that is one of the scariest parts of trusting, because you can't see the whole path, you don't really know where you're going. You're just following because it feels right. But without knowing that unknown is so scary.
Amanda Durocher 21:23
Yes, we are so programmed in this society to know where we're going. I feel like that's why so many people go to school, and then get a job and then buy a house and then have a family. It's like, you want to know the steps. But the question is, are you fulfilled along the way, I think many people are fulfilled by those steps. It's not a judgment here. But it's just for me, what I found was when my intuition was telling me to get off that track, was like a squeeze me. What do you mean, one example that's coming to mind right now is I really wanted to get married, I was obsessed with getting married, I'm not married, I'm never gonna get married. But do you know how much trusting my intuition that required of me to not marry my partner of 11 years, and to give up every single belief I had around what marriage would give me, and to give up the expectations I had for my future, and the expectations of what my partnership would look like? It was just an experience of following the next steps. And the next steps are like never what I wanted. Like, that's how it felt. I was gonna
Erica Wernick 22:30
say, What would you say to someone? And I know the answer. But what would you say to someone who says, are you saying your intuition is leading you to something you don't want? You said you wanted marriage? Why do you have to follow this thing? That's something you don't want?
Amanda Durocher 22:42
Yeah. So that's been one of the biggest lessons for me is that what I think I want is often what my ego wants, right? It's like, Where does the desire come? Yeah. So it's learning that the to distinguish between your ego and your soul, or your higher self or your intuition. I use all these words interchangeably. But yeah, that's been one of the hardest things for me. Like another example for me is I'm currently writing a memoir, I would tell you, when I got this info, it was through a dream. I had a week where every night I was told you're going to write this book, I had a hissy fit. I was like, I don't want to do this to other people, like the guidance they get because you got to be kidding me. Like, I don't want to fucking do it. And then I didn't do anything with it for like a month. And then this month, I was like, kept getting the right the memoir, write the memoir. So one morning, I sat down, and now it just flows in a way that writing has never flowed for me. It's like chapters of my life, just pour out onto the page. Do I know what's gonna happen with this memoir? No, is it just for me? Maybe, probably not to be honest. But that's like another example of not always liking what our intuition has to tell us.
Erica Wernick 23:59
And I think also, when we think about why we don't like, where it's leading us, it's the unknown. Oh my gosh, like as humans, I think we just hate the unknown, which is really fascinating. Because I look at my career, and I think I actually do enjoy it. It's like, I'm terrified of it. But I think I prefer it, as opposed to having my life be very predictable every day. And I also think that kind of like what we were talking about before we started recording, I think, oftentimes our inner being while all the times, think all the time our inner being is leading us to grow and to be uncomfortable, and to heal the things we need to heal. And I think that's also one of the reasons why we don't want to do it, and we don't like it because it's not going to lead us to something that's easy in the sense of it doesn't challenge us in any way or it doesn't help us grow in any way.
Amanda Durocher 24:55
Yeah, totally. I feel like my soul is always asking me to expand It's always asking me to be bigger, and to be more of myself. And in a world that is just starting to talk about vulnerability, that's terrifying, because that's not where we're taught. So basically, in order for me to be my most expansive self, I have to change every belief I was given in my childhood, of staying the same staying in line, through through whatever, through school, through family life through friendships, and it's so uncomfortable. But I also saw in my own life, that that's part of the reason I drank, because it was either I'm gonna grow, or I need to numb the boredom for me. I see now that drinking, it was like, I wasn't living up to my potential, and I just couldn't sit with how uncomfortable it was not to live up to my potential. So I would numb it. But it's also uncomfortable to grow. So you just have to choose, you're uncomfortable, I guess.
Erica Wernick 25:57
Yes. And like, you know how you were saying that the Whisper goes away. But if you listen to it, again, I'm just going to tell you the same thing. I was going to say what choose you're uncomfortable. I think oftentimes, we first choose the easier uncomfortable, yes. And at least that's my experience, right. And it's like how you were saying that the Whisper goes away. But if you ask it again, it'll say the same thing, I think it's the same thing. It's like, it goes away, you can choose the other thing, you know, you can choose to be uncomfortable in a different way. That's not where your intuition is leading you, you can choose that. But oftentimes, when you go down that path, if you're self aware, and connected enough, you know, to your inner being, it's not going to feel right, you know, you're not going to feel good, you're not going to feel fulfilled, and you'll be pulled back to that other uncomfortable thing. Tony Robbins often says, you know, we don't move or take action or choose something different until the pain becomes too great. I love that, you know, and it's like, this one uncomfortable choice. I've had enough of, you know, I guess I'll go choose the other one.
Amanda Durocher 27:04
Yeah. And that's reminding me of like, that's why so many times we play out patterns in our lives, like you find yourself always having the same type of relationship are always in the same type of job, or these patterns we play in our out in our life is oftentimes it's also information for us. So if we're not following our inner voice, we oftentimes play out these patterns until we ask that inner guidance. Okay, I'm listening, what's going on here?
Erica Wernick 27:31
Right. And as you know, our man Dr. Joe Dispenza, says it's part of it is because it's a memorized chemical reaction in your body. Yes, there's
Amanda Durocher 27:38
actual science behind it. This is not the right podcast if you want the science, but it is out there that what you were two artists,
Amanda Durocher 27:49
we intuitively know I love to sometimes read books about how there's science behind it, because this is just something I intuitively know. And it's also something my mother talked about my entire childhood. You're playing out patterns playing your patterns. So
Erica Wernick 28:04
yeah, you know, that made me think of the self help field. You know, now I, I love self help. My books are self help. Oh, my gosh, it's so cool to be in that world. And I think before there was a stigma to it, you know, it's like, Oh, you don't want to be caught in the Self Help section of a bookstore. And now I'm just like, where's the Self Help section? Take me to it. That's my happy place. And it's just interesting, because I think like, you know, why people don't like it. Because self help is really just about like, people who are interested in being better tomorrow than they were yesterday. You know, that's really it. And it's like, if you are so used to playing out those patterns that you're talking about, you're gonna, you know, looked down upon self help and be like, Oh, that garbage, that new agey Shit, I don't need it.
Amanda Durocher 28:59
Yeah, that's something I definitely saw with my sobriety was it was like, people who were in the old drinking pattern I was in did not always like that I got sober. Because when you start doing self help, or even following your inner voice, it's like so many people don't that you end up triggering people. Honestly, I believe following your soul is contagious. Yes, right. It's actually why we're all on planet Earth is to follow the voice of our soul is to follow that inner guidance, to live up to our greatest potential. And it's another lie that we think it's ever supposed to be easy. Our soul wants difficult. Our soul wants to see us overcome challenges. Like that's exciting for the soul, the human ego bekend terrifying. And when you start doing that, it can trigger people around you who are just not there yet, or may never be there. That's the other thing that when you start following your inner voice, I feel like it can get easy to like judge other people who don't.
Erica Wernick 29:59
Yeah, I guess we can get like a little snobby and elitist about it. Oh, we're Self Help for
Amanda Durocher 30:04
sure. When you start doing self help, it's like, I know why I'm like this, and I can see why you're like that. Yeah. But it's so important to bring the self compassion back, which only happens when you start being kind to yourself and see that, you know, everybody's just really doing the best they can, in every given situation. And the more we heal, the more we can see in others. Like, that's okay. They haven't healed that yet. But it doesn't also mean what I've been currently working through is it doesn't mean you have to hold yourself back. Because I've been working through beliefs of what if I become unrelatable?
Erica Wernick 30:43
Yeah, and I actually, you know, ever since Rachel Hollis put up that video and stirred up that controversy, what I actually believe about that, because I was thinking about someone like Jamie Kern, Lima, who is the founder of IT Cosmetics, her journey is not relatable at all, she created this makeup line in her house with her husband on their own. And now it's worth Billy, like she sold it for a billion dollars or something like that is you cannot relate to selling a company for a billion dollars. However, what is relatable, or the night she cried herself to sleep, or the struggles she had, or the times where she wanted to trust her intuition when it was telling her to do something that was the opposite of what a consultant was telling her to do. And she really battled with that, and how to trust her intuition. So I think that maybe the results, the end thing that you reach is not relatable to everybody. But I think the path and the journey, and the struggles is relatable. And that is inspiring, because maybe I don't want to have a billion dollar company. But whatever my big dreams are, whatever my version of that is, if she can do that, and have the same type of struggles that I have right now, it makes me feel like, oh, that's possible. Sort of like with you in the Superbowl?
Amanda Durocher 32:04
Yes, yes. And when you were saying that, it reminded me of how at the beginning, you said, you never would have pictured yourself writing this book. I actually think that makes you the best person to write this book, somebody who's been connected into their intuition, since birth, can feel unrelatable to some people, but also be relatable to some people, right? So some people will need that book. But your book is going to be for people who aren't so sure of that inner guidance, right? And you can relate to that. Even if by the time this book is out. You're like, I'm, I trust my inner guidance in a new way. Your journey is what is relatable.
Erica Wernick 32:39
Yes, I mean, even my book before this meant for this, I'm over some of that stuff. And I shouldn't say over it, like it's served me so well. That's how I got here. That's how I've, you know, how so many of my clients have gotten to where they want to be, and it's helping so many other artists and, and dreamers achieve their dreams, which is so incredible, you know, but but now I'm taking a deeper as I as I move through my own growth, you know, it's like, yeah, I went through that. And I did all of that. Okay, cool. I don't really want to talk about some of that stuff anymore. I'm going deeper. And if you want to come along with me, and go deeper with me, here it is. But But I think you're right, you know, like I often say, Oh, I feel like my book is sort of, in the lines of universe has your back. But coming from a very different voice. Because I am not somebody who has been meditating since I was a child. You know, like, I am not somebody who has been spiritual for all those years. Like, I'm just coming into all of this. And I'm like living it now in the process of learning how to trust it in a way that I'm running my life like that.
Amanda Durocher 33:45
Yeah, I love that. Because that's honestly how I feel about this podcast to allowing it to evolve. So you know, I had a lot of insecurity about starting it, like who am I to start this podcast? And my perspective grows all the time. So it's talking about these big issues. My perspective does change. Do I think the tools I offer are always going to be helpful? Yes. And I trust it's that intuitive trust that when people find the episodes, they're just right for them. It's perfect for them at that point, and it was perfect for me. Every episode heals me in a new way, which has been a beautiful experience, but also to what you were saying, with my healing journey. I was so passionate about starting this podcast, because I mean, I was like, dead asleep, who I am today, how aware I am all the healing I've done. I mean, I started from ground zero, you know, and I just want everybody else to know that change is possible. Healing is possible. I was suicidal. Till I'm 100% committed to being here. I have reached new levels of joy in the past year that I feel like all there is is to help others feel that same joy too. But my life didn't always look like this. And I guess that's what's relatable.
Erica Wernick 34:58
Yeah, it is. I like I said, I think that journey is relatable. I think what's not relatable is when someone says I achieved this massive success overnight. And it was easy. And I didn't struggle, and I just did it. And it was great.
Amanda Durocher 35:13
Yes, people want the vulnerability. Yes, because that's what's relatable. So it's so funny to live in a culture that programs us out of vulnerability, where vulnerability is what connects us. It's what lets us know what's possible. It's what inspires us. It's so important. I wish more people were vulnerable. I think it's, I'm seeing it more and more. And I think we talked about this before the episode, like the confirmation bias, you know, you don't see something and then you start seeing it everywhere. But I still think we have a vulnerability problem, where we don't support that from a young age, we shut down children's emotions. Yeah, I
Erica Wernick 35:49
mean, I can tell you, you know, with my depression, you know, I struggled really badly, you know, up until a couple of months ago, and it was dark, and it was deep, and it was scary. And I didn't want to tell anyone besides my mom, you know, besides my family, who loves me unconditionally, how I really felt or what was really going on, it was too vulnerable. Like, and also because I was so depressed and in such a dark place that I wouldn't be able to mentally handle if they, yes, why my vulnerability? Yes. Like it. Like if it wasn't safe, and you don't know. And, you know, like, I really only had one friend that checked on me consistently. And, you know, she texted me every day. Are you okay? How are you doing today? And I would say, Fine, I lied. I always lied. But I did appreciate, you know, that she was asking, but to be that vulnerable? And to say, I'm not doing well, today, I'm not doing and the darkness of it. I mean, it's Yeah, I was too scared to be that vulnerable, with anyone besides someone I knew unconditionally loved me.
Amanda Durocher 37:05
Thank you for sharing that. I think that is to just bring it back to relatable. I think that's relatable. Like, I think that that's so important for us to hear other people say that because I think that we have as a society made depression or anxiety, or these really tough feelings seem like weakness. So when you're in those really dark places, it can be really hard to share that. But it's also like you said, I think so important is that you couldn't handle if somebody couldn't hear it. Yeah, because I have been there, which is another reason I started this podcast is, I'm so passionate about all healing, because we need to be able to hold space for people who are healing. Because the amount of times I tried to talk about what I was going through, and somebody's inability to hold space for me, sent me backwards, sent me further into my depression, further into my isolation, further into that feeling of hopelessness. And I can see now all those people who did that, to me, weren't able to hold space for me, because they didn't hold space for themselves, I can see that. And I send them all so much love. I've worked through forgiveness on those parts. But in those moments, I needed somebody who could. And it's so important for us to create spaces like this not to toot my own horn, but I'm just so passionate about creating safety, because I think that we don't feel safe to heal, we don't feel safe to feel really hard feelings. And safety is like the first step to healing.
Erica Wernick 38:44
Yeah, 100%. And like, I can talk about it now. Because I'm on medication, and I feel so much better. And I'm in the I have the mental capacity to talk about it. If somebody doesn't, isn't here for it, you know. And it is hard when you're in a vulnerable moment, such as anxiety, depression, or anything else like that, or even physical illness, you know, where you're just not mentally in a safe, you know, place where you can handle it. Yeah, it's, it's challenging. It's challenging.
Amanda Durocher 39:17
Yeah. And to bring it back to intuition. I think sometimes our intuition is just telling us to feel a feeling. So if you can't hear your intuition, but you're feeling angry, and you keep shoving it down, are you're feeling sad, and you keep shoving it down. You're saying like, where's that inner voice? That is your inner voice? Your inner voice is asking you to feel a feeling. That's like our intuition speaks through our bodies oftentimes, so everybody hears differently. I have visions I can hear. But I've found throughout my healing journey that oftentimes My intuition is just telling me to move through a past event, even though I'm like But like, what about this screenplay? Like, if somebody's gonna buy it? What should I do? What should I write? Which character name should I use? intuition tells me and my intuition said like, see that face that keeps popping in your head? Why don't you stay with it? Why don't you sit with that person? Oh, you're thinking to yourself, What an asshole. Is that? A loving thought? Let's sit with it. Why do you think they're an asshole? What happened? Does that remind you of something from your childhood? And it's like, oh, you're gonna make me do this? And your intuitions like, yeah, because this is what in the quantum field or in the nonlinear world is what will get you to your unrealistic. I'm putting that in quotes. unrealistic goals.
Erica Wernick 40:39
Yeah, I mean, it reminds me of when I said to you, when the medicine started working, and I was like, crap, now I have to work through my shit. Yeah. You know, because like I couldn't, when I was super depressed, I couldn't work through it. I felt like there was fire, I can't even I don't, I wish I could explain it better. But I couldn't. The layers, there was too much on top of me, and I couldn't clear it. I couldn't deal with my shit. And the moment I started feeling better, I had this little nagging voice, it's like, cool. I'm so glad you're doing better. Now let's deal with your shit. You know, and not now. Let's like, now let's face all of these things that are coming up for you now. And I do think you know, I think I told you in my book, I have these tenets. That's the right word of, of your inner being of you know, if you're unsure if a clue is from your ego, or your inner being, and, you know, to run it by these tenants, and I was thinking, you know, your inner being is all about love and self love. And so when you hear a man to say, will sit with that your intuition is like, sit with that feeling. So you though that's an you know, and it doesn't feel like oh, well, Erica, that's not love. And it's like no, it it is. Yes. And you know, because I think your ego can go oh, well, that's not a loving thought or a loving direction, you know, but it's like no way moving through, this is going to help you love yourself more. And what's on the other side, is gonna get you even closer to what you want. You know, because I always say that in the book. I say, if you're receiving scavenger hunt clues, you are not the same person on Clue Number one as Clue Number 50. Huh? Yes, yes. And you could never get to clue number 50 If you are who you are at Clue Number One.
Amanda Durocher 42:28
Yeah, I fully believe that. You don't understand that fully until you like move through it. I feel like you just start trusting that guidance. That's one of those looking back and seeing it. But I've seen that so many times in my life, where it's like, oh, I wasn't ready for that. And now I am
Erica Wernick 42:45
kind of like your tick tock thing. You know, would you follow a halt? Do tic tac and in your and it wasn't even about like, this is the marketing tactic that you are being led to? Right? It wasn't about that at all?
Amanda Durocher 43:00
Yeah. If you're new here, yeah, I had a Tiktok go viral in August. And I've talked about it in a few podcast episodes. But I thought that that would be like such a fun thing. For me. It was absolutely traumatic. It was awful. I hated every second of it. And what that taught me was a lot of things. It mean, my inner voice was like, Yeah, this is why this, we like encouraged you. I consider myself having a lot of voices in my head. So I often use we felt like this is why we encouraged you to get on Tik Tok. Not so you can be big and famous so that you would look at more things that wouldn't come up if you didn't have this experience. So for me, it triggered bullying wound with all the mean comments I received. And I mean, I received 1000s of kind comments, maybe 1% mean, all I could focus on was the mean, because I had something to heal there. And, you know, now my intuitions like, oh, yeah, you don't need tic tock, we're going to YouTube. And I'm like, you want me just let go of TiC tock, and we're going to YouTube. And I'm like, but I have so many followers there. And my intuition is like, hey, you know, it's like not your place, go to YouTube. And I don't have a YouTube video up right now. So letting you all know, I'm still that's my next step personally, that I've just been like, hey, maybe tomorrow. But yeah, it's not always what we think we're going to discuss that and one of the questions too, so maybe we'll jump into questions. Yeah.
Amanda Durocher 44:29
Thank you for tuning into another episode of New View Advice. This is just part one of two. So I invite you to jump on over to wherever you listen to podcasts and start part two of this episode, where we answer two questions. One is about intuition versus insecurity. And the other is what do you do when you feel like you are led somewhere by your intuition but you end up feeling heartbroken. Thanks again for joining me, Amanda Durocher for another episode of New View Advice. As always, I am so grateful to be here with you and to offer a new view on whatever He may be going through sending you all my love
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